In these situations, nasal packing is the fastest and best way of stopping the nosebleed.
For any type of active bleeding, direct pressure tamponades the bleeding thereby stopping it... whether it be a stab wound to the leg or a bad nosebleed. In essence, direct pressure exerts a certain amount of pressure that exceeds the blood pressure preventing blood flow. The corollary being if the amount of direct pressure being exerted is LESS than the blood pressure, bleeding will still occur.
With nasal packing, pressure is exerted by the packing material and pressed against whatever the bleeding source is within the nose. Watch video.
My personal favorite packing material is called the rapid rhino made by Arthrocare (I have no financial ties to the company). It is in essence a balloon covered by a bio-compatible self-lubricating fabric. This device is inserted into the nose in a deflated state.
The key point here is that enough pressure must be exerted by the balloon device. If the patient's blood pressure exceeds the balloon pressure, bleeding will still occur and MORE air must be pushed in. As such, in patients with high blood pressure, more air must be inflated into the balloon device to stop a nosebleed compared to a patient with low blood pressure.
So, here is what it looks like to insert a rapid rhino nasal packing.
Step 1: After hydrating the fabric, the nasal packing is placed at entrance of nose.
Step 2: Nasal packing is fully inserted into the nasal cavity.
Step 3: The nasal packing balloon is than inflated with enough air pressure to stop the nosebleed.
Obviously, blood pressure must also be controlled and the nasal packing can be removed in about 3 days for patients not taking any blood thinners or anti-coagulants (coumadin, plavix, ticlid, pradaxa, aspirin, ibuprofen, etc). For those on such medications, packing may need to be kept in place longer.
For more information about nosebleeds.
Watch a video regarding how cauterization can stop nosebleeds.
Watch a video regarding how cauterization can stop nosebleeds.
19 comments:
Want happen if packing comes out bin less than 24 hours
Believe me, that packing is NOT coming out. It must be removed! I had that thing and it was horrible and it didn't budge. I had to get it removed by a ear, nose and throat specialist.
Thank you. I had a patient return from ER today with 2 of these in. I had never seen them before. Your article was very helpful.
Is it normal for blood and fluid to seep out around a nasal balloon? I had one inserted at the emergency room on Sunday, July 6th and I am to have it removed on Wednesday. I took a shower and then noticed that dark red blood was seeping out around the bottom of the nasal balloon. Does this mean I won't be able to get this out on Wednesday like planned? It was so painful! My face and teeth just ache! I slipped and fell on the ice outside of my office in February and hit my head. I had a bad concussion. Two weeks later, I started to have nose bleeds. I am 59 and never have had one before. Now I was getting 3-5 a day and they were very hard to stop. Most of the time I could stop them within 20 minutes but the one that I got on Sunday wouldn't stop so I called 911 for help. They couldn't stop it and I ended up in the ER with this vial thing up my nose! No one will listen to me when I tell them that something happened in the fall that has caused this. I saw my VA doctor and she sent me to the ENT before this bad bleed on Sunday. The ENT doctor cauterized some spots but couldn't see where the rest was coming from and felt it was posterior. I was to start my only vacation for the year on Monday. Now, I have lost three days to this incident. What can I say to the doctors to get them to pay attention to this? There has to be a reason that a 59 year old woman who has never had nose bleeds to all of a sudden to have them after falling and hitting her head on the ice. I need some advise on what to do. I can't take much more of this nasal balloon. It just hurts too much? Is Ultram OK to take for the pain? All I have taken is Tylenol and it hasn't helped the pain at all.
Freedancer, I know that you left your message 2 years ago but I just want to say that I empathize with you completely. Just had this device inserted today at the ER for a nosebleed that wouldn't stop. There is a constant slight drip of watery blood. And in the 2nd hour after application the pain kicked in to where my teeth are hurting - just like you. They gave me Tramadol but I'm scared to use it after reading all of the warnings. The worst thing is that the ER doctor said that the packing could be removed in 2-3 days but every doctor is telling me that their policy is 4-5 days. And since this is a Tuesday that means that I've got to wait through the weekend until next Monday. That will be 6 full days. :-( I may try calling around to see if any doctors will remove it earlier. Can't see living like this for a week.
I'm wondering what the outcome was for both of you? I've had it since Fri. Have had kids with no epidural and this at least ties on the discomfort scale. Seeing the ENT tomorrow.
Mine is slowly coming out? It's sticking out further then it was when they put it in so,uncomfortable is it bad if it comes out
I have a nasal pack in at the moment from waking up Saturday with a bad nosebleed for the first time ever. This thing is so annoying and uncomfortable,cant sleep can barely eat mouth is so dry from breathing with it lol. ARRRRGGGG. The stupid strings are itching my face. Seeing a ENT tomorrow for removal.
Currently have nasal pack in past 48 hours. Had a bad nosebleeed went to ER. The thing is really annoying hard to sleep and eat very uncomfortable seeing ENT tomorrow hopefully for removal.
I have the same story. Really bad nose bleed this morning, went to the ER, they packed my left nostril with one of these and the right side with a normal "tampon." I have an appointment with my ENT for it to come out in 2 days, but it's really uncomfortable. It's also still dripping a little bit which makes me nervous.
I can feel coagulated blood at the back of the my throat and it makes me want to gag. I've never had a nose bleed before this and I'm more than a little freaked out.
Did everything work out okay for you guys?
I had to have this installed due to a nosebleed that wouldn't stop. Ive had it for 3 days and it stops the bleeding for about 8 hors before I start feeling it again in the back of my throat. Applying more pressure into the balloon stops it but I've yet to go 24 hours with no sign of blood. Is this normal?
i had it over 3 weeks ago i feel like i have been raped .so much pain .like hit in face with baseball bat .. still lots blood and clots . cant hardly put glasses on for very long
I recently went into the emergency room with the condition described in this article. Pressure applied to the nose would only cause the blood to back up into the nasal cavity, and eventually bleeding would resume once the partially coagulated blood was discharged either through the nostrils or throat and mouth. I was about to have one of those balloon bandages put in when the doctor gave me over-the-counter nose drops (Afrin - Oxymetazoline HCl Nasal Decongestant.), and that stopped the bleeding immediately and completely in just one application. Hopefully, there won't be a next time like that, but if so then that's what I'll try first.
I know this is an older post but I just got mine done today and my right nostril I'm in so much pain and I do have this constant drip of light blood did anybody ever find out if that was normal please help
I had a Rapid Rhino put in 3 days ago for a posterior nose bleed and won't have it removed for another 2 days. It was an excruciating and painful experience to get it inserted. I am still having much discomfort from it. Is the removal process as painful and the insertion? I am also on warfarin which scares me about having this incident again.
Just had it done this morning after 24 hours of bleeding. I hope I don’t have to have it on long.
Hello Unknown, I too am on Warfarin and had one of these put in my right nostril around Noon 2/12/18 because nose bleeding wouldn't stop. Was told to come back on 2/14/18 to have them look at it. They checked my INR was was stable at 2.7 for me on 2/12/18. I do however get small water down blood drips from the area which is annoying. Let me know how are you doing now.
I too have constant light drip blood. Did all went well with yours? Just got mine in yesterday around 1200 for unstoppable nosebleed which came from no where.
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